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Not Much Mystery Behind $9 Million Raised for Prop 4

Proposal 4 supporters expect voters to believe that the union is spending $9,593 per name for a registry

… nearly $9 million into Proposal 4. The SEIU is … in the push to get Proposal 4 passed, but the ballot … more

Proposal 1 a Referendum on PA 4

… state about the ballot proposals on the Nov. 6 ballot. … or reject Public Act 4 of 2011. A "yes" vote … this week explaining proposals 1 through 5.) Proposal … choices. Public Act 4 is the emergency manager … more

Families Forced Into SEIU Scheme Relieved and Thankful After Proposal 4 Defeat

Robert Haynes: 'It took ordinary people like us to bring attention to what was really happening.'

… thanks to the defeat of Proposal 4, they should soon be … being spent by Proposal 4 supporters. Aside … the constitution, to 44 percent in favor. That … more

Law Enforcement Does Not Universally Support Proposal 4

State sheriff's association says it's wrong for special interests to meddle with State Constitution

Backers of Proposal 4 are trying to create … enforcement leaders support Proposal 4. That's not so. Michigan's … more

An End Finally in Sight for the SEIU Dues Skim

Voters overwhelmingly reject the forced unionization scheme

With Proposal 4 soundly defeated, the … union contract expires. Proposal 4 lost by a wide margin . … more

Michigan Ballot Proposals

… commentary on the following proposals expected to appear … down Prop 4: Election Update! … regarding these ballot proposals as Center analysts … more

Commentary: Proposal 4 Excludes Caregivers From Getting State Employee Benefits

SEIU wants forced unionization locked into state constitution but only to take money from caregivers

… and supporters of Proposal 4, which would lock the … language of the proposed constitutional amendment … of. Proposal 4 is a money grab, plain … more

Commentary: Prop 4 Supporters Promise Programs That Already Exist

Home-based caregiver proposal would lock SEIU unionization scheme into state constitution

… telling people what Proposal 2 won t do instead … Monette then says that Proposal 4 ensures that will … passage of Proposal 4. The federal Home Help … more

Hospital SEIU Members Say Home-Based Caregivers Get 'No Benefit' From Proposal 4

'They don’t receive sick time. They don’t get vacation time. They can’t file a grievance'

… unionization alive with Proposal 4 , don't like what their … Michigan, is using Proposal 4 to try to keep the … majority (more that 44,000) of those paying … more

SEIU 'Dues Skim' and U-M Research Assistant Bills Brought On Proposal 2

Issues brought to the forefront by the Mackinac Center cited by UAW President as reasons for ballot proposal

… in bringing about Proposal 2 . That's what United … voters, 58 percent to 42 percent. In the wake … recent interview . Proposal 2 on the 2012 ballot … bill, House Bill 4246 , reached Gov. Snyder's … more

Prop 4 Not About Home Care

… do proponents of Proposal 4 maintain that the … over 30 years? Proposal 4 is about taking money … more

Prop 4 Would Put Union Scam in Constitution

… state about the ballot proposals on the Nov. 6 ballot. … a Referendum on PA 4 Tuesday: … this week explaining Proposals 1 through 5.) Monday: … Billions Proposal 4 is the third of three … more

Prop 4 Op-Ed in Detroit Free Press Ungrounded

… opposing views about Proposal 4 the home-based caregivers … article in support of the proposal is from Dohn Hoyle, who is Prop 4 spokesman and executive … more

Media Resoundingly Rejects Prop 2, Prop 4

Only two weekly newspapers support either of the union-backed plans to alter the state constitution

… Election Day looms, Proposal 2 and Proposal 4 are without any … it. Proposal 4 , which would lock the … more

Do Prop 4 Supporters Know What It's About?

… of a group pushing Proposal 4 , the forced unionization … exactly would this ballot proposal change? Enshrining … thing Delisle claims Prop 4 will do is already … more

Gov. Snyder Could Replace Board That Helped Facilitate Forced Unionization Of Home-Based Caregivers

If Proposal 4 passes, constitutional amendment would lock in current union-stacked board

… the situation if Proposal 4 were to pass in November. Proposal 4, which Gov. Snyder … help unionize about 44,000 home-based caregivers … more

Making Sense of Michigan's Ballot Proposals

Chart explains supporters, opponents and what the six proposals mean for Michigan

… with six statewide proposals that could reshape … Granholm. Proposal 4 would allow the SEIU … most attention is Proposal 2 , which would enshrine … proposal. Prop 4 supporters say it would … more

Proposal 2 Would Declaw Emergency Managers in Proposal 1

… November ballot, some proposals are bound to impact … or reject Public Act 4 of 2011, the state s … best example is how Proposal 2 impacts Proposal … upon in Public Act 4. One of the most material … more

While Helping Out Injured Ex-Wife, Man Forced Into Union

Proposal 4 would ensure that people like Richard Nottage remain unionized public employees

… if voters approve Proposal 4 on the Nov. 6 ballot. Supporters … are claiming that Proposal 4 would create a registry … more

Voters Reject Special Interest Power Plays

Proposals 2-6 soundly defeated

… soundly defeated. Proposal 2, which would have … in a landslide 58%-42%, as did Proposals 3 through 6. F. … double-digits. As was Proposal 4, the SEIU scheme that … more

Proposal 2: More Power for Government Unions

… state about the ballot proposals on the Nov. 6 ballot. … 5.) Monday: Proposal 1 a Referendum on PA 4 Today: Proposal … this week explaining Proposals 1 through 5.) Monday: … more

Which Ballot Proposals Are 'Grassroots'?

… international bridge ballot proposals are not a grassroots … group. Proposal 4: The Unionization of … effort . If you think a proposal on the November ballot … group, you re wrong. Proposal 5 is another maneuver … more

Ideas For Fixing the Financial Manager Law

… manager law, Public Act 4 of 2011, by voting against Proposal 1. This reinstates … eliminate both Public Acts 4 and 72 and made their … differences between PA 4 and PA 72. The … more

Emergency Manager Law Makes Pontiac Reforms Possible

… or reject Public Act 4 of 2011. This law gives … yes Public Act 4 remains in place, if … Legislature enacted PA 4. That was the ability … department to see why PA 4 is needed. Emergency … more

All Five Constitutional Amendments Soundly Defeated

Emergency manager law repealed

… Vernuccio said of the Proposal 2 defeat. The … agenda. Proposal 4 , a scheme that would … percent in Michigan and Proposal 2 being defeated with … meaning that Public Act 4 of 2011 is repealed. With … more

Infighting at the SEIU

Union behind Proposal 4 facing lawsuit that was filed by its own employees

… the union behind Proposal 4 , which would lock … comment. ~~~~~ See also: Proposal 4: The Unionization … members. Of those, about 44,000 are home-based … more

Union Electrician and Wife: 'The SEIU Never Did Anything For Us'

Milliron family says they don't think the SEIU should be able to lock its forced unionization into the state constitution

… get me back with Proposal 4 . The SEIU … I m on the clock 24/7. The Macomb … state constitution with Proposal 4. That worries … more

$1.6 Billion in Savings Lost Under Prop 2

Proposal 2, the Protect … $2.3 billion to $4.3 billion in unfunded … Center report . [4] MPSERS reforms. … http://www.mackinac.org/14216 (accessed Sept. … more

Health Care Unionization Campaign Changes Its Story — Again

Ballot proposal avoids the one issue it is about: Money for the SEIU

… Home Care Safe proposal campaign has made … 1981. Backers of Proposal 4 as the ballot measure … claim that passing the proposal would create the Home … scheme to organize 44,000 home health care … more

SEIU 'Dues Skim' Days Are Numbered

Work to get caregivers their money back continues

… was the approval of Proposal 4, which would have locked … dissolved as of April 14, 2013. "Finally, … soundly rejected Proposal 4 by a margin of 56 … more

'It's hard to believe the union could get away with something like this'

Ex-Teamster says it's 'thievery' that the SEIU is taking money he could use to take care of his mother

… been used to bankroll Proposal 4, a proposal on the November ballot … money. Prop 4 supporters have used … more

Arc Michigan Exec's Name-Calling Goes Against Group's Own Pledge

Dohn Hoyle, who also is Prop 4 spokesman, called parent caregiver Robert Haynes 'an idiot'

… spokesman for Proposal 4 which would lock … They also oppose Proposal 4 . The … more

Prop 3 Would Cost Taxpayers Billions

… state about the ballot proposals on the Nov. 6 ballot. … a Referendum on PA 4 Tuesday: … this week explaining Proposals 1 through 5.) Monday: … claiming more than 94,000 new jobs and $10 … more

Per-Pupil Spending About Even

… Oxford Foundation s proposed revision of Michigan s … grader might only cost $4,500, but an 11th grader … school options. The proposal has received harsh … an average of $7,284 per pupil in 2010-2011, … more
MCC2010-01

I'm Just a Bill

A sampling of proposed state laws, as described on MichiganVotes.org

… Jones, R-Oneida The bill proposes to authorize a retirement … HOUSE BILL 4813 Give state … Rapids The bill proposes to give cities, villages townships … create. HOUSE BILL 4577 Increase school … more

October 19, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… insurers: Passed 33 to 4 in the Senate To … "No" Senate Bill 1141 , Authorize enhanced … more

November 30, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… authority: Passed 24 to 14 in the Senate To … from $2 per acre to $4 per acre the amount … "No" Senate Bill 1240 , Extend lawsuit … more

October 26, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… by the state from a $4 deed and recorded document … from $3 per month to $24 per month, adjusted … time. House Bill 5848 : Allow two-wheeler … more

Prop 5: Protecting Taxpayers from the Government

… state about the ballot proposals on the Nov. 6 ballot. … a Referendum on PA 4 Tuesday: … this week explaining Proposals 1 through 5.) Monday: … Billions Thursday: Prop 4 Would Put Union Scam … more

The Price Tag on the Ballot Proposals

Constitutional changes would cost billions to Michigan taxpayers, citizens

… to judge many of the proposals extend beyond dollars … contribute to a union, as Proposal 4 requires) there also … implemented. Proposal 4. Voting yes on … more

Union Power Grab Proposal Heading To Court

… "Protect Our Jobs" proposal for the Nov. 6 statewide … other change in Section 4. "This proposal … get to vote on the proposal will now be decided … date by which ballot proposals need to be ready … more

March 22, 2013, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… program that would go to proposed "Private Forestland … Voting House Bill 4369 , Codify education … "No" House Bill 4093 , Make permanent … "No" House Bill 4378 , Repeal interior … more

MichiganVotes.org April 1 Weekly Roll Call Report

… instead contains several new proposals to amend the state … sales tax of up to 4 percent on merchandise … their employees. Under the proposed amendment, that law … more

School District Allows Union, Employees To Exclude Material From FOIA Requests

Legal expert says they are breaking the law

… requests could arise if Proposal 2 passes.The union-backed … Section 7 of that Act (423.507), 'An employer … which are more than 4 years old.' However, … more

School Districts Value Best Teachers $1 More Than The Worst

District officials said merit pay law is an 'unfunded mandate'

… districts could undo if Proposal 2 passes in November. … became effective Jan. 4, 2010, that said public … more

Union-Supported Ballot Proposal Targets Right-to-Work, Recent Reforms

UAW-backed constitutional amendment would prevent future workplace choice

It was billed as proposal to prevent Michigan … legislation (P.A. 4), which was designed … the anti-right-to-work proposal would attempt to gather … needed to put the proposal on Michigan's November … more

Projection: Repealing MBT and Surcharge Creates 120,000-plus Jobs

… Gov. Rick Snyder has proposed replacing the tax … would require some $4 billion in spending … more

February 22, 2013, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… that would go to a proposed "Private Forestland … teacher-student sex: Passed 32 to 4 in the Senate To … "No" Senate Bill 44 , Add more crimes … more

Democrat Contradictions: Corporate Tax Breaks Bad, But Incentives for Hollywood Good

Dems criticize MEDC, but want to give more money to millionaire movie moguls

… budget, House Democrats proposed maintaining the film … the movie Spy Kids 4. The website, boxofficemojo.com, notes Spy Kids 4 had a $27 million production … wasted tax dollars on proposals that don't work and … more

Reforming State Government A Tedious Task

Conference committees often favor budget bills with higher spending

… got Gov. Snyder s proposed best-practices incentive … House. House Bill 4223 , which appropriates … spending in the budget, proposing $573,906,300. Gov. … year s LARA budget was $645,901,800. This year, … more

How Taxpayers Are Funding Political Lobbying

Tri-County Alliance operates as a front for school districts political lobbying efforts

… Gov. Rick Snyder's proposed school budget as a … Alliance . The TCA is a 501c(4) non-profit, which means … 2011." The governor's budget proposal at the time added … TCA received $151,344 in membership dues … more

There Are Alternatives to PA4 ...

... But the unions will like them even less

… tempered PA 4 when it was proposed. The Mackinac Center's original proposal provided for judicial … alternatives to PA 4 is somewhat like asking the … problem. PA 4 is not without its drawbacks. … more
Joyce Parker

Emergency Managers: A Distasteful Necessity

… unions are backing two proposals which would repeal Public Act 4, the Local Government … legislation like PA 4 by making government … directly repeal PA 4. PA 4 expanded … more

What the Emergency Manager Referendum is About

… a whole, they could propose a ballot initiative … that if Public Act 4 is repealed, the state … the action. PA 4, the emergency manager … manager law. If PA 4 is repealed, that would … more

State Senate Passes Legislation to Define Home Health Care Providers as Private Individuals

Attorney: Ballot initiative to revive lucrative and illegal SEIU scheme would violate U.S. Constitution

… Foundation. Government-sector unions recently proposed a constitutional … take an additional $4 million from aid intended … that if passed, this proposed amendment would violate … late 2006, more than 40,000 Michigan home health … more
Emergency managers

What the Emergency Manager Referendum is About

Supporters of Proposal 1 on the Nov. 6 ballot, … the action. PA 4, the emergency manager … a whole, they could propose a ballot initiative … manager law. If PA 4 is repealed, that would … more

The Human Side of Right-to-Work Legislation

These are real people who have been hurt by forced unionization

… editorialized against Proposal 4. The Detroit Free Press … more

UAW Prez: SEIU ‘Dues Skim’ More Important Than RTW

… and to criticize Proposal 4 , a proposed state constitutional … netted them over $34 million so far. The … more
A Prescription for Better Health Care

Ten Reasons to Reject State Obamacare Exchange

With a hat tip to the Goldwater Institute in Arizona

… to Michigan and to the proposed state exchange that … the exchange. "4. While federal mandates … cease at the end of 2014. Both PPACA and the proposed regulations prohibit … more

Public-Sector Retiree Health Care Benefits are Unreasonable

… prefunding. Still, the proposed bill would eventually … now that House Bill 4701 has passed the … benefits offered by 24 major private-sector … a year roughly $400 million than the pay-as-you-go … more
Detroit

Detroit Consent Agreement: Another Kick of the Can?

… percent to 2 percent, as proposed by Detroit city officials … Michigan s Public Act 4 to restructure or even … bases. Sadly, this proposal is typical of Detroit s … defined-contribution programs like 401(k)s. Defined-benefit … more

Upside-Downside of “9-9-9” Income Tax Reform

… 9-9-9 advocacy proposed dumping the current … persistent changes 14,000 amendments between … fiasco befell Indiana s proposed tax-easing more than … to the payer. 4. Affordable-Efficiency … more

Dec. 9 MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call Report

… available" jobs. Some of the proposed changes reflect what … week. House Bill 4701 , Transition … collect money from a proposed mandate that would … 1997 to contribute 4 percent toward their … more

March 30, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… new coverage mandate proposed by Senate Bill 414, … operation: Passed 24 to 14 in the Senate To … $100 million and $140 million annually for … more

State of the State: Blown Away

… would create with her proposed economic development … the Granholm administration to 41st through 2008. A … in January 2003 to 14.6 percent through December … in the nation for 46 consecutive months. … more

December 7, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

… regional transit authority proposed by Senate Bill 909 … House Bill 4054 , Make Michigan … of the revenue from proposed reductions in the … more

GOP Fumbles: On Verge of Giving MEA Huge Pension Win

… the Senate's earlier proposed tweaks plus some new … these workers generous 401(k) contributions. This … unnecessarily generous proposed 401(k) system. This … House vote of June 14, which included some … more

The Public Purpose of Our 'Professors' Email' FOIA Request

… a statewide ballot proposal that would reduce … the morning of April 4, 2011. In two cases, … to promote a ballot proposal to hike the state s … state of Michigan s 54,000-plus government … more

August 24, 2012, MichiganVotes.org Weekly Roll Call

40 individuals. The proposal contains clawback … report will be Sept. 14. Y = Yes, N = … Voting Senate Bill 1224 : Mandate employer … eliminate a current cap of 48 months on the time … more

Confirmed: The SEIU 'Dues Skim' Finally Ends

Home-based caregivers no longer losing money to union

… including putting Proposal 4 on the 2012 statewide ballot . Had Proposal 4 passed, the forced … SEIU, however, took $34,416,335.21 from the elderly … more

Union Rushes Contract To Avoid Right-to-Work; 'Put This Whole Nightmare Behind Us!'

Dearborn Public Schools voting on contract days before law kicks in

… Union Berkley Schools Union Proposes 9-Year Contract To … period of time (3 to 4 years)." Mustonen … district. For 2013-14, that monthly amount … reform, for the [2014-15] year and further, … more
MCC2012-03

MICHIGAN CAPITOL CONFIDENTIAL

Fall 2012 Edition

… this issue: Proposal 2 Would Cost Taxpayers … Dropped Proposal 4: The Unionization of … Says Study: Proposal 3 Would Result in … Caregivers Proposal 4 Supporters Promise Programs … more

Right-to-Work Law Means Less Money For Union Political Power Grabs

… unions pushed the Proposal 2 ballot initiative , his … uncertainty ; it failed 54 percent to 46 percent. In … Party pushed a ballot proposal "Reform Michigan Government … more

Connecticut Now Struggling With Caregiver Unionization Efforts

SEIU loss in Michigan not stopping the union

… with the rejection of Proposal 4, but a similar forced … Connecticut. Michigan Proposal 4 , which would have … more

Legal Foundation Seeks End to Forced Unionization of Home-Based Caregivers

State agency asked to award $3 million back to workers that the SEIU took as dues

… now." The SEIU is backing Proposal 4 in an effort to … and resulted in about 44,000 people being forced … supplies. If Proposal 4 were defeated on … more

How Public School Funding Works

… when voters approved Proposal A in 1994. The nearly 400 pages of laws directing … operations under the Proposal A funding mechanism. Schools … more

SEIU 'Dues Skim' Finally Grinding To A Halt

… the SEIU bankrolled Proposal 4 in November, which … taken more than $34 million from the elderly … they overwhelmingly defeated Proposal 4 . In its final … sometime around March 4. "The legal prospects … more

Extra Early Voting Opportunity in Heavily Democratic Area Raises Eyebrows

'One clerk decided the voters of one city would get a voting opportunity those in the rest of the state didn't get'

… Today.' There was a pro- Proposal 2 tent (a union-backed … Lansing. The timing, noon to 4 p.m., coincided with … weren't clear on the proposals. It looked to me … open, from noon to 4 p.m., were those chosen … more

Michigan’s Most Expensive Mass Transit Agencies

… user support, the proposal would penalize them … a price now above $4, a gallon of regular unleaded … requirement of the Agema proposal. The requirement would … agencies report that $4 isn t enough spending … more

Sept. 26 Michigan Legislature Roll Call Report

… one-time revenue sources proposed to close the gap between … 1152, Appropriate $14.1 billion for Medicaid … the revenue sources proposed to close the gap between expected … would appropriate $14.124 billion in gross … more

Gov. Snyder v. Rachel Maddow

… Maddow: Maddow: Rick Snyder has proposed an actual tax increase … rate on everyone from 4.35 percent to 4.25 percent, obviously … taxation, when the proposal removes special treatment. Maddow … more
Vol. 2, No. 4 - July/August 2008

'ARE WE NUTS?'

State budgeters wrestle with reality

… Pappageorge introduced a proposed amendment to the state … saying that budgeting 4 percent beneath the … voter approval, this proposal would require a two-thirds … the House voted 61-48 to spend $32.2 million … more

Warren Schools: Plenty of Desks, But Not Enough Cost-Cutting?

… increase that has been proposed to help Michigan schools … Dodge Park on May 24, according to CandGNews.com . … Granholm's service tax proposal that would generate … to the west, saved $4 million by privatizing … more
MCC2009-4

The Lowdown

… vote regarding Land's proposal "is a big one" because … R-Parma, in an Aug. 4 special primary election. … $1.1 BILLION out of $1.4 billion of the spending created by the $1.4 billion tax hikes of … more
MCC2009-05

The Lowdown

… taking a real vote on a proposal. Often, as in this … to the polls on Aug. 4 to decide the fate of a ballot proposal that would increase … coincided with the Aug. 4 date, only one other … more

Most of the Arrested Anti-Right-to-Work Protesters Have SEIU 'Dues Skim' Connections

Son of SEIU Healthcare Michigan president one of those facing charges

… Granholm was governor. Proposal 4 on the 2012 statewide … lobbying; Noyes received $48,361 in 2011 for political … Troutman received $45,989 in 2011 for political … more

Police Called to Monitor Dam Removal Meeting

Angry residents flood meeting to complain about Traverse City area dam removals

… picnicking along the proposed riverside trails. Officials … dams engineer with 45 years experience, clearly … Record-Eagle article on Nov. 4, in which he pointed … more

Commentary: Labor Bosses' Vision of Collective Bargaining Hurts Workers, Society

Union plans will force Michigan to have to hang 'Closed for Business' signs

… most important ballot proposals in Michigan's history … Conservatives Inc., a 501(c)4 non-profit organization. more

Hartland Teachers to Share in Belt-Tightening

… Gov. Rick Snyder s proposed school plan, Hartland s … funding would go from $7,426 this year to $6,956 … saved a total of about $4 million, according to … Public Schools Claims $24 Million Cut, Budget … more

$300K Combined Salaries for Granholm and Mulhern at Cal-Berkeley

Financially embattled school offers 'substantial' time off for summers and other employment

… Edley Jr. wrote: We propose that each of you teach two … estimated gap of $25.4 billion. Granholm … at California-Berkeley was $146,000, according to a … semester begins April 4. In the fall, she will … more

Gary Peters' 'Deathbed Conversion'

… a working group to propose "major cuts" estimated … policies. Peters scored a "4" on his voting records … more

MIRS: Where's Tea Party On K-12?

… from the Governor's proposed $470-per-pupil spending … repost from the May 4 edition of MIRS News, … what Rick SNYDER proposes in terms of the overall … more

Cap the Film Incentives and Kill the Film Industry in Michigan? Not Yet

Film Industry Supporters Crying Wolf Over Governor's Plans for Film Subsidies

… Gov. Snyder s proposal is the economic … incentive of $5,263,464 on $12,532,056 of direct … after the governor s proposed budget was released … more

The Tax Hiker's Shopping Guide

… the governor's recent proposal for an unprecedented … can be found on page 49 of the 2007 edition, … percent service tax proposal, but the guide notes … fatten state coffers by $4 billion, just removing … more

Democratic Party Political Director Linked to Mysterious Tea Party Political Party

… favor of Democrats. The proposal failed to gain ballot … his donations. A May 4, 2009, donation of $200 … Michigan Government Now ' Proposal more

'MEA Republicans' Grind Down Tea Party Reformers

… the following about proposed cuts to the School … establishment that spends $45 billion each year to … signing off on the proposed cuts to K-12 education. … followup : The MIRS News May 4 edition adds the following … more

School District Admits 'Big Mistake' Over 'Get Rid of Snyder' Phone Alert

District apologizes for robocall that may violate state campaign finance act

… schools about ballot proposals do not break election … 7th/8th between 3:30 and 4:00 pm. Thank you. Goodbye. To … was referring to HB 4052 , sponsored by Rep. … bargaining organization, (4) collective bargaining … more

Interlocal Agreements – Good Intent, Bad Practice

… legislative session, I ve proposed a series of solutions … Some 40,000 private day … books for more than 40 years. The Urban … Aid Agreement in 1994. Many would argue such … more

How Fees Fuel Big Government

… Agency, SB 375 doesn't propose to take the $500,000 … bill on a vote of 34-1 . It now awaits … fund comes from a $4 fee assessed when property … sad history of that $4 remonumentation fee. … more

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